tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post9119846566168240004..comments2024-03-01T13:51:17.228+05:30Comments on Emancipation of Eve: C for church. C for choice.Jhoomur aka JBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11863377244719408313noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-80953297531037907152008-09-05T17:28:00.000+05:302008-09-05T17:28:00.000+05:30Hey Eve or JB or Whatever your name isThe point is...Hey Eve or JB or Whatever your name is<BR/><BR/>The point is that I'm Irsh from New Delhi and have started www.delhiguide.in, Delhi's most innovative guide.<BR/><BR/>It's my own venture. Tryin' to help Delhiites solving some problems which are yet untouched.<BR/><BR/>You can do loads of stuffs here. 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It ...It should be a personal choice and that alone. It is so unfair to raise a child without the father or without the basic comforts... and i totally agree with 'on the way'... why can't a girl be selfish??... why can't a girl just put herself before everything else? it's her life!! because whatever happens after that is her responsibility alone!!!vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04566887115654297664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-34916831190596061322008-08-10T09:40:00.000+05:302008-08-10T09:40:00.000+05:30"I DON’T know the answers. I want to know. "that a..."I DON’T know the answers. I want to know. "<BR/><BR/>that about sums it up for me. I wish...wish...wish ...wish that there WAS a clear answer. A blinking board! A defined tangible slip of paper that announced the 'right' thing to do. And not right by societies standards but for your OWN!.....rape victims having the baby? UNTHINKABLE! hasnt she been through enough???? Cant we all just lay off the moral sermon and LET PEOPLE BE?...<BR/><BR/>*sighs*Samsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11591812109338593810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-46467226891827209982008-08-08T19:14:00.000+05:302008-08-08T19:14:00.000+05:30@ Silbil: LOL! you're right. idiots who cant be tr...@ Silbil: LOL! you're right. idiots who cant be trusted with birth control certainly shouldnt be trusted with a child! but here - take a look at dipali's post. a woman who conceived thrice and aborted....<BR/><BR/>http://dipalitaneja.blogspot.com/2008/08/of-three-abortions.html<BR/><BR/>what do you say to that?<BR/><BR/>the last time may not be her fault - but the times before that? two abortions that were accidental conceptions. come on - what were they smoking when they used birth control? obviously people ARE careless because they know that if all else fails - there is ALWAYS abortion.the mad mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14535453643548976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-90359753106561250852008-08-07T20:12:00.000+05:302008-08-07T20:12:00.000+05:30Silbil - but I know someone who underwent IVF afte...Silbil - but I know someone who underwent IVF after failing to conceive for 6 years and THEN aborted because it was a girl. <BR/><BR/>Another someone who had a fight with her husband who wasnt taking her out at midnight to eat the icecream craving she was having - she aborted the baby saying - if you cant take care of the baby before its even done, how will you do so later?<BR/><BR/>so there are some crazy kooks there who treat this as a joke. <BR/><BR/>and i am guessing that the kind of ppl who abort girl babies - perfectly healthy girl babies - will not hesitate to abort a baby who is deaf or dumb or misisng a finger. if a male heir is so important - then i am guessing they do so... <BR/><BR/>i know a doctor's wife who had three abortions, trying for a boy. had three daughters. a doctors wife!<BR/><BR/>@ dewdropdream: a late abortion can be fatal to the mother. a badly done abortion, even early in the pregnancy - can leave scar tissue in the uterus that prevents you from conceiving again. <BR/><BR/>have a friend who aborted her first baby - got knocked up in college - now she doesnt need to use birth control.. can never conceive again.the mad mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14535453643548976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-47839648381863369392008-08-07T19:53:00.000+05:302008-08-07T19:53:00.000+05:30Since we're on the topic, anybody knows what are t...Since we're on the topic, anybody knows what are the after-effects of abortion on the health on the woman who undergoes it?DewdropDreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01458048793584270994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-76834377666318812922008-08-07T16:36:00.000+05:302008-08-07T16:36:00.000+05:30MM I agree with your point of not using abortion a...MM I agree with your point of not using abortion as a birth control method. But I kind of doubts that people in large numbers do something like that.<BR/>and an insane person who'd do that...by insane i mean REPEATEDLY and HABITUALLY careless person who'd do something like not using protection, the baby is better off not born to such parents. what else can they might be careless about, you never know.<BR/>but isn't protection NOT 100% foolproof. I know ENOUGH number of people who are saddled with with babies at the wrong time...spelling a long period of unwanted ness or even whole life of unwantedness for the child and non fulfilledness for the parent/s. <BR/>isn't that unfair.<BR/>i really don't undersrand why this is a moral issue at all.<BR/>does anyone REALLY know a person who does abortions for fun? obviously there is a REASON good enough to warrant the desire.<BR/>and i obviously not talking of assholes who kill girl children,i am talking of abortion of unwanted fetusessilbilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368116409362597344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-46064218849453040902008-08-07T14:27:00.000+05:302008-08-07T14:27:00.000+05:30i like your spirit always JB - but yes - THIS is m...i like your spirit always JB - but yes - THIS is my problem. why arent people doing enouigh to prevent these unwanted pregnancies???<BR/><BR/>i understand if the father backs out and you dont have money or you;re raped or whatever. no need to be a matyr. but killing it becaues its a girl child - or because you forgot to use protection - this is serious business... you cant make a joke of it by using abortion as birth control...the mad mommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14535453643548976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-16999920168616188862008-08-06T11:32:00.000+05:302008-08-06T11:32:00.000+05:30hee hee eve did u mean to say 24 month pregnant? i...hee hee eve did u mean to say 24 month pregnant? i think it was a typo...<BR/><BR/>Maxine makes a very very pertinent point... love cannot be forced. and yes, for the kind of sacrifice it involves, during and AFTER pregnancy (it is at least a 10 year FULL time job or even more)it is disgusting to think how people won't let the woman decide for herself.<BR/>the pro lifers (only concerned about the life of the fetus NEVER the woman...oh she is a human being , is it...we all thought she is just a vessel!)work on the presumption that maternal love is an innate thing...like natural...bullshit!!! that just triviliases the women who choose to be mothers too...<BR/>you know...it is a piddly little job, why you killing the child means that the one who is having a baby also doing a piddly little job.<BR/>dumb fucks...pro lifers need to disappear.<BR/>and i want all men/dumb women to be out of my uterus NOW!silbilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14368116409362597344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-47031295091601848532008-08-05T04:24:00.000+05:302008-08-05T04:24:00.000+05:30Steve --. no apologies needed for not bei ooughtsn...Steve --. no apologies needed for not bei ooughtsng around! the blog does not mark attendance. :) Your time, thoughts and words are always appreciated. <BR/> <BR/>Goofy Mumma--- thanks for participating. comments are always welcome and someone 'declaring' themselves as reading this blog is even more welcome! :) Hope to see more of you around.<BR/><BR/>On the way --> good to see you. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06940726266857576700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-65803385031114879622008-08-05T04:19:00.000+05:302008-08-05T04:19:00.000+05:30Will take Mystique's question first: Prenatal sex ...Will take Mystique's question first: Prenatal sex determination with the idea of removing the foetus if it is a female is Wrong. That's the thought and reasoning behind making it illegal in India. And that's perhaps where it gets interesting that abortion is not illegal in India. <BR/><BR/>WRT personal choice, am in complete agreement that it should be a woman's choice. <BR/><BR/>However, as Maxine asked: what if the man wanted the baby? Is saying "I am not ready" enough? Most cases we hear of are where the man runs from the responsibility and the woman wants the baby. BUT what about when the baby is just not ready for the baby?<BR/><BR/>My PROBLEM with abortion that people -- both men and women -- have begun looking at it as a method of conception. Mistakes happen but somehow I have the feeling that couples of even single people -- guys and gals -- aren't doing enough to PREVENT the pregnancy. <BR/><BR/>I am also not too sure about abortion when it comes to a girl/woman who is 24 months pregnant. In our acquaintance, we have had a woman deliver a baby at 22 months. Small thing when the child was born, today she is a year old... So is a 24 week old foetus just a bunch of cells or does it have consciousness? And why was she waiting for that long in the first place?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06940726266857576700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-57586897903733589452008-08-04T16:22:00.000+05:302008-08-04T16:22:00.000+05:30so true. It's actually a VERY personal choice, I d...so true. It's actually a VERY personal choice, I don't think the state can dictate it.<BR/>What if you're a single mother without a job? <BR/>etc etc.<BR/>But no....they don't see the mother's point of view....just the baby's.<BR/>actually, it depends on the reason. If it's something really unjust like female foeticide, abortion is in no way justified.<BR/><BR/>ps.....does the same go for prenatal sex determination ?Mystiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03822962164638092431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-12918052975242748722008-08-03T01:36:00.000+05:302008-08-03T01:36:00.000+05:30You know something I am tired of this debate, I am...You know something I am tired of this debate, I am just sick and tired of it. A lot of these conservative pro-lifers say that they're for freedom yet they go around dictating what a woman can do with her uterus, it really makes no sense at all. Isn't that a contradiction in terms?<BR/><BR/>I mean, these people go around talking about the sanctity of life and yet they choose to go and kill doctors if they perform abortions, is <I>that</I> pro-life? <BR/><BR/>Moreover the sanctity of life argument raises several logical problems, like; every time someone loses a few sperms or an egg that could be fertilized is s/he committing an act of murder? Are they actually suggesting that a woman who has more than one period is a serial killer? After all, almost every sperm and egg has the potential to be a child.<BR/><BR/>Where does this end? If a fetus's life is sacred then isn't all human life so? How can they then advocate something like the death penalty (most of these conservative pro-lifers are also pro capital punishment)? It's a rather slippery slope isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Carl Sagan had a rather interesting take on this issue;<BR/>"<BR/>...conjures up the specter of predominantly male, predominantly affluent legislators telling poor women they must bear and raise alone children they cannot afford to bring up; forcing teenagers to bear children they are not emotionally prepared to deal with; saying to women who wish for a career that they must give up their dreams, stay home, and bring up babies; and, worst of all, condemning victims of rape and incest to carry and nurture the offspring of their assailants. Legislative prohibitions on abortion arouse the suspicion that their real intent is to control the independence and sexuality of women...<BR/>"<BR/><BR/>I think that abortion should be legal, if a mother doesn't want to have a child then she must have a pretty good reason for it. Moreover, it's <I>her</I> body and I don't think that anyone has any right at all to tell her what she can or cannot do with her body. This may sound cold amoral or monstrous to these people, but I think that they should shut up and go take a good look at the misery they inflict upon others through their moral hypocrisy. After all, reality isn't decided by vote.<BR/><BR/>PS: I am sorry about my hiatus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-59959083839418910642008-08-03T00:45:00.000+05:302008-08-03T00:45:00.000+05:30I fail to understand why can't a woman be selfish?...I fail to understand why can't a woman be selfish?? Forget any rational reason like being 16, not having money etc, rightly said she becomes a bitch if she exercises her choice!<BR/>Also,it is ultimately the girl who has to bear the brunt of harsh realities of bringing up a child alone,so it may look a very empowering decision on one hand to bring up the child alone but i really doubt if it is worth it. <BR/>In the case where the partner is willing to take up the responsibility, it is in no way to profess that a girl (due to her bilogical superiority to bear the child) can take the decision to bear or abort the child at her will alone!!<BR/>Enjoyed reading, provided some food for thought from a wider perspective :)On the way....https://www.blogger.com/profile/14189468897825007754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-53360640927482524262008-08-02T03:31:00.000+05:302008-08-02T03:31:00.000+05:30Big fan of your posts, just never commented so far...Big fan of your posts, just never commented so far. For one its a very personal decision to be taken by the woman herself and partner, if involved. No one has the right to judge her. Going by popular demand, if she does give birth, will these anti-abortion lobbyists, then come a and support the baby, if the mother is unable to do so? Also I believe mistakes do happen ,and people do have a right to correct it if they can, better not have a baby than make it live a miserable life.SDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680026705334224458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-69483932351513787142008-08-02T01:01:00.000+05:302008-08-02T01:01:00.000+05:30Without arguing the many 'what ifs' and trying to ...Without arguing the many 'what ifs' and trying to have a different answer for each scenario that presents itself, my simplistic answer would be...woman's body, woman's decision, that's final.<BR/><BR/>Now the reasonings behind the decision are what comes under scrutiny. If it's a woman who gets rid of a girl because she wants a boy...she's a monster. If it's a victim of rape... understandable. If she's someone who will face grave danger to her own life if she carries through... poor thing, having to choose between her life and that of her baby. Like I said, it the thought or reasoning behind the act that needs to come under the microscope.Mamma mia! Me a mamma?https://www.blogger.com/profile/04136269509737254271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-28642267696893055522008-08-02T00:42:00.000+05:302008-08-02T00:42:00.000+05:30I live in the US and I am still amazed at how wmot...I live in the US and I am still amazed at how wmotioal people get about this topic. To me it is a very personal decision to be made by a woman and no one else except for close family (if solicited) should have a say in the matter.<BR/><BR/>This is one of those topics where there is no clear black & white, it is mostly grey.Asheeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105517348184772405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-7014731812266209692008-08-01T19:00:00.000+05:302008-08-01T19:00:00.000+05:30Womens college,1997,we had this awareness day that...Womens college,1997,we had this awareness day that showed a movie on abortion shouting that its a sin.Ive heard girls sayin how cruel it is and that the movie changed their life,their thoughts etc and many joined just for the sake.Spoon feeding confuses.Do they promote free thinking anywhere?<BR/><BR/>Abortion is a personal choice of the parties involved,depending on their situations.I'm still confused about one thing...what if the father of the unborn child is willing to take care and yet the pregnant one wishes to abort?Is she liable to giving birth and giving the child to him? Or raise the child just because?Raising a child is definitely not a pleasure filled journey.Sacrifice,stress,panic,anger guilt etc-all of which has to be kept at ease by one feeling which is love.And we know love cant be forced.They say motherhood comes naturally to all.Is it really so?Even if the mother herself is a 16 yr old child or a 25 year old who certainly wasnt dreaming of getting raped or a 30 year old forced to have a baby by her own husband?And why I dont see fatherhood coming naturally to many?Especially the unmarried ones who leave their semen marks with pride?<BR/><BR/>I love children.My own and others around me.It wasnt so many years ago.Age or how we treat life and viceversa is also a criteria,i suppose.<BR/><BR/>(Marijuana??Cocaine??)We have an illegal plant.God given green declared illegal by man.haha.And the plants didnt even pop up after having sex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-30597337363971531892008-08-01T15:13:00.000+05:302008-08-01T15:13:00.000+05:30excuse typos too, can't think syntactically right ...excuse typos too, can't think syntactically right when am in a fit like this :)DewdropDreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01458048793584270994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34788771.post-44928339973971486722008-08-01T15:12:00.000+05:302008-08-01T15:12:00.000+05:30Someone once sent me grisly pictures of actual abo...Someone once sent me grisly pictures of actual abortions in the hope that I'd change my mind about being pro-choice. Long story short, I didn't. Those pictures were awful to be sure, but I was quite irked by the fact that everyone is going on and on about how it is a sin to kill the baby, it's akin to murder, how the woman must be heartless. <BR/><BR/>In a majority of the cases of unwanted pregnancies, the men simply bolt. How come no one questions their motives? They're equally responsible for the result of their actions, how come they are not held accountable for abandoning the girl and the unborn child?<BR/><BR/>I know for a fact that even doctors tend to judge any gir; who announces that she does not wish to carry on with a pregancy. And I swaer to god I could bitchslap everyone who thinks it's their boundedn duty to dump their attitude on someone who doesn't need it when they're already having a tough time of it. The choice of having an abortion itself is a very painful and deep one, it scars one for life. It needn't be made tougher. Technically, no one has the power to detemine whether another creature lives or not, but why mark abortion out this way? How come no says the same thing about all the genocide happening? About female infanticide? The freedom to choose ought to be there. Merely for the reason that if the baby cannot be provided for as it deserves, then why make it suffer for no fault of its own? And why would any woman want to live with a daily reminder of her trauma if the child happened to be born because she was raped? <BR/><BR/>Abortion cannot be though wrong or illegal. The world doesn't exist in black and white and that is what everyone needs to wake up to.<BR/><BR/>Excuse the long comment please, this debate pushes my buttons.DewdropDreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01458048793584270994noreply@blogger.com